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Post by The Netherlands on Jul 6, 2011 18:37:15 GMT -5
A.k.a. my plot thread.
I’m pretty much open for anything. Nethers has a history with a lot of countries, like Belgium and Luxembourg (of course), Spain, Canada, Germany, England, France, his colonies, etc. So I’d definitely be interested in threading with any of those. As for the event, there’s lots of wars and other historical events to choose from, so I’m sure we’ll be able to think of something.
And if anyone he doesn’t really have a history with wants to RP crack or something, I’m also up for that. Just drop me a reply.
I think that I should note that I will limit myself to two threads at a time for now, so I won’t let people wait too long and I can get my real life things done too. But of course we can always still plot in the meantime~
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Post by Spain on Jul 6, 2011 18:53:43 GMT -5
Hey, yeah sure, I would totally rp with you~ you have any ideas? The only one that is really stuck in my mind right now is the revolts... Um. Hahaha.
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Post by Luxembourg on Jul 6, 2011 19:06:50 GMT -5
I'd love to do a thread with you! I'm open for anything, crack or otherwise.
Maybe a group thread with Belgium, if she's up to it? The Belgian Revolution (1830) would be fun, I think.
For something less specific, we could do a general RP set during the time when they were all under one house or maybe when the Low Countries were occupied by Germany - perhaps something akin to a prisoner-of-war setting? These could be group or just Ned and Lux.
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Post by angelinehofstee on Jul 6, 2011 22:56:57 GMT -5
>:3 Belgian revolution yaaaaah~
Or maybe when Belgium fought Netherlands in the 80 years war.
But since you're only doing two at a time....I think the Belgian revolution would be better; that way Lux can thread more easily too!
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Post by The Netherlands on Jul 7, 2011 6:14:19 GMT -5
@ Spain: I'd be more than happy to RP the revolts. In my application I mentioned that he got his scar during the Eighty Years' War (since he doesn't have it yet in the comics in which he is still under Spain's control), so maybe it'd be fun to do something with that? I imagine that would be somewhere later into the war. Though the start of the revolts would be fun to RP as well.
@ Lux: A BeNeLux thread sounds awesome~. I'm up for the Belgian Revolution. So did you have a specific event in mind? Like the start, or the end? Before the final treaty of seperation of Ned and Bel there were also two others, but the first was rejected by the Belgians, and the second was rejected by the Dutch (who then proceeded to invade Belgium. France and England had to chase Ned out of Bel's lands :'D). So maybe something to do with that?
@ Belgium: Belgian Revolution, Eighty Years' War.... You just want to hurt me, sister. Admit it. Anyway, see above for possible thread ideas.
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Post by Spain on Jul 7, 2011 22:28:22 GMT -5
Eighty Years War would sounds pretty interesting, especially considering the same Protestant heretics a lot of people fought in it. Would you want to start in the beginning? And if so, how far back would you consider the beginning?
I have been interested in the Dutch Revolt, honestly -- but never met a historical Netherlands. Anyway, I guess we could start with the iconoclasm... or perhaps have it take place a bit after and use that as a flashback?
Also, I was thinking about this, do we need England?
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Post by angelinehofstee on Jul 8, 2011 9:20:05 GMT -5
Oh I want to hurt you but apparently Himaruya doesn't think so! ;A;
I read the new strips, and Belgium doesn't act the way I thought she would. Shes very "Oh my big brother is so cool *w*" so now I have to redo everything >:I
Parts of it were cute though! XD Like the Santa Claus part.
Anyway now I'm trying to figure out why she would want to rebel from him in the first place...well more like I know why the actual country rebelled but it doesn't match with Belgium's character now.... gah... ;A; but when he invades her would probably be the most fun! Still gotta work this out in my head now XD
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Post by The Netherlands on Jul 8, 2011 16:59:10 GMT -5
@spain: Actually it weren’t that many nations involved in the Eighty Years’ War. It was mainly a war between the Netherlands and Spain. It was only when the Thirty Years’ War started that a lot more nations became involved.
The beginning of the Dutch revolting was around 1566, which is also the year in which the iconoclasm happened. I think RPing the iconoclasm would be very interesting. In case we decide on this we wouldn’t need England since he wasn’t really involved yet then. But for later events we might need him. But I don’t know how available for threads England is, so... ^^;;;
@ Belgium: I read those strips just now. “Oh no! Netherlands is too good, I’m defeated!”[/s] Made my day.
But well, she doesn’t have to look up to him through her whole history. Their attitudes towards each other are bound to change over the centuries. And nations ally and/or fight with unlikely nations all the time. Like how Netherlands and England are at each other’s throat a lot, but form an alliance when Ned fights Spain during the Eighty Years’ War. XD (though that might just be because it’s Spain)
In current times Ned and Bel get along pretty good actually (even though the people still make a lot of jokes about each other, ‘dumb Belgians’ and ‘cheapskate Dutch’). But back in the day there could’ve been more tension between them and at some point Belgium just couldn’t take it any longer. The main reasons of why the Belgians started to revolt was because of how the French speaking Catholic Walloons were treated, and the religious differences between the Belgians and the Dutch king at that time.
I imagine it could be a sibling fight that got out of hand or something. Like Belgium has had it with him pushing her around all the time and starts to break some stuff, and Netherlands is like “what the hell?” and fights back. You know how siblings can get when they fight. They both don’t want to give in and before you know it it’s a war, both refuse the treaties, and Ned invades Belgium.
That is uhm... the simplified version of what I’ve got in my head about this event. XD I hope that helps a bit?
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Post by Luxembourg on Jul 8, 2011 19:52:02 GMT -5
Any point during the war works for me, Ned. We could focus on a specific battle if that would make it easier. I'll probably have to do a little research first whatever our course is.
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Post by Spain on Jul 8, 2011 22:06:39 GMT -5
Psst, that was part of the joke. Anyway, right, on the scale that it was fought, no, it's not that many countries, but three countries against one is plenty~ (given the fact that Philip II is practically bankrupt at the time, amongst some rather, well, other issues).
But anyway, I think that England may be a bit busy and I totally agree with you. The iconaclasm sounds interesting and would be a pretty kick ass way to start a thread -- is there a way you would imagining this happening or would you want to just dive in? I'm kind of open for either! If you think it would be easier to plot outside of this thread (so I'm not hogging or anything), just let me know and I can give you my email or something~
I look forward to this!
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Post by The Netherlands on Jul 12, 2011 16:11:11 GMT -5
@ Lux: I was thinking about the Ten Days' Campaign in 1831, which was when Netherlands refused one of the treaties and invaded Belgium. Since Bel showed an interest in that one as well. France is involved in it, too, in the last days of this event (and England later, with the Treaty of London, 1839). Though we could just focus on the interaction of the siblings, if France is busy with other threads. I don't really have other specific battles from the Belgian Revolution in mind now. Though if you have a different idea, feel free to tell me. @ Spain: I'll still have to read up on it a little more, but I'm okay with either too. I think the most important thing is to work out a starting point, and we can work from there. There’s a couple of ways we can go about this thread. It could go something like the Dutch revolting with Netherlands breaking stuff alongside them, and Spain tries to stop him or something? We could decide on a specific place/event, if that makes things easier. I’m open for other suggestions. We can plot out further details through email or msn if you'd rather have that, so you can give me your email if you want. Sorry for any possible inaccuracies. It is late.
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Post by angelinehofstee on Jul 12, 2011 20:23:56 GMT -5
Can we start the Belgian Revolution one now? =3 I'm ready!
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Post by Spain on Jul 13, 2011 23:46:28 GMT -5
Hm... that's a good question. I think it maaaay be interesting to see Netherland's point of view as they are defacing the icons (I guess he would also participate in them) -- and depending on how you wanna bend it, we could talk about how the Spanish reaction is to that and cut to the reaction to that in your same post. Well, anyway, perhaps we should move this to msn, I have a couple ideas, but it's late and it may be easier to talk about this on the weekend (I'm going out of town for another client and so my internet is limited).
This is gonna be so badass. >D
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Post by Spain on Jul 15, 2011 22:56:47 GMT -5
Hey Free -- I added you back on MSN, um, you have a particular time you are on. I have to go into the office tomorrow to work again, but if you see me chillin' online, just shoot me a message!
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Post by The Netherlands on Jul 18, 2011 15:27:45 GMT -5
@ Spain: I’m randomly online through the day, but mostly in the evenings, timezone GMT+1. Haven’t been online much in the past few days though, since I’m leaving on a holiday next Wednesday. I’ll try to be on more tomorrow, so we can at least still discuss a few things.
@ Belgium & Luxembourg: Sorry I haven’t started the thread yet. I’ve been more occupied with preparations for my holiday than expected. Right now I’m not sure if I’ll be able to before I leave either, so if one of you wants to start it instead, feel free to.
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