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Post by Finland on Jun 12, 2011 18:21:13 GMT -5
Since we’ve been talking a little about our personal headcanons in the cbox recently, I thought I’d make an official thread for it! I think it’s always interesting to see the slight differences in how everyone thinks of the nations. This might also come in handy during an RP in which we need to know how to react to the other person's character.
So, do you have any headcanon for your own character(s)? What about for the other characters?
... FINLAND
MANNERISMS
- Starting around December every year, he gets severe seasonal affective disorder. Because the days are so short (and sometimes nonexistent) during Finnish winter, the lack of vitamin D from the sun makes him depressed. To remedy this, he has an artificial sun lamp and he goes through a liter of milk every day. This might be why Finns are the world’s top consumers of dairy products.
- He’s an Angry Birds addict. He has every version of the game and he’s beaten them all multiple times. It is Finnish, after all.
- He has a coffee schedule. There are six specific times per day when he needs coffee, and God help the person that comes between him and his fuel. He only makes an exception when he’s at war.
- He speaks Hakkinenglish (i.e. very thickly accented English with strange grammar as spoken by Mika Hakkinen). He’s embarrassed about his English. He understands it very well, but he’s quite shy around foreigners which leads to him getting flustered and forgetting all of his training. He’ll often opt to stare at his feet, blushing and stammering and shortening any answer that he does manage into one or two word statements.
- He also drives very similarly to Hakkinen (i.e. extremely fast with Scandinavian Flicks) Strangely, he has been in very few auto accidents.
- He only uses Nokia mobile devices.
- When in a situation that forces him to speak in a human tongue with Berwald, he’ll always choose Swedish. Not only can he understand Swedish better than Berwald can understand Finnish, but he sees it as a sign of respect and acknowledgement to their past relationship and life under one house.
RELATIONSHIPS/LOVE/SEX
- Tino’s straight. He loves Berwald with every fiber of his being, but only platonically.
- Despite the previous point, it is extremely rare that Tino is with a woman. [He’ll tell his brothers otherwise to avoid teasing, of course.] He finds the idea of being with a human in a relationship too strange. He can count the number of women he’s been with on one hand, and only one of these encounters has been in the past century.
- He doesn’t see himself as a parent figure to Peter. Tino doesn’t mind being around the child and he cares for him as much as he would any other nation outside of his family, but he will never see him as a son.
- Though he calls the Nordics his ‘brothers’, he often felt like an outsider in his earlier days. He realizes that he’s not as closely related to them as he is to Estonia. As the Kalmar Union was collapsing, he worried he might lose them forever. Today, he’s gotten over that feeling almost completely.
- His views on physical love are very strange. On one hand, he’s got no problem watching something that would be rated NC-17 in the United States with others in the room as one might watch an infomercial. He’s been pretty desensitized. However, he refuses to discuss his personal love life or the topic in general, especially with people he knows. Nudity is also something reserved specifically for saunas and swimming. Anywhere else and it’s just plain lewd. Of course any public display of affection is highly embarrassing.
- When he actually gets around to doing the deed, he's very vanilla. Of course that means rape and any type of BDSM hold little appeal to him. He'd just as soon (and does) stick with self-gratification because it's so much less emotionally complicated in the long run.
- Contrary to what one might think, the sauna and sex are not at all related for him. The sauna is sacred and it would be an insult to the sauna spirits to commit such acts while in one. Mixed-gender saunas are common in Finland.
- Tino finds that cars, on the other hand, are great places for such activities.
HISTORY/GEOGRAPHY/CULTURE
- Väinämöinen hasn’t always been his surname. It used to be his first and only name. Long ago, the Finns noticed how the boy aged much more slowly than any human, thus assuming he was the embodiment of Väinämöinen, son of the goddess Ilmatar and the first man. He took on Tino as his given name after he was Christianized by Sweden.
- Midsummer (a holiday primarily celebrating fertility) puts him in a mind-altering, euphoric state.
- When the Russians annexed Karelia and other lands in the east of Finland after the Winter War, Viipuri, one of Finland’s major industrial centers, was taken. This is equated to Tino’s lung collapsing. Karelia has never been returned to Finland; Tino’s lung has never since functioned properly.
- The first nation with which Tino came into contact was Estonia, not Sweden. It is why the two have so many culture similarities. They likely met in what is today Russian territory near the Gulf of Finland.
- As a protonation, he was too young to fully understand spiritualism, but he sometimes participated in Saami rituals. Today, like nearly 80% of his people, Tino is Evangelical Lutheran.
- The cross he wears around his neck is Finnmark, the northernmost region of Scandinavia. The dimensions and appearance of the cross are the same as Norway’s hairpin. Even though Finnmark belongs to Norway, one of the major people groups living there are the Kvens, a group of Finnish peasants and fishermen, and so this is the strongest cultural bond between Finland and Norway.
- He's got some self perception issues because of his fluctuating weight caused by years of prosperity followed by years of famine, most recently his terrible depression in the 1990s. He's also aware that most of his muscle mass he had during his fighting days has softened now that he's neutral.
OTHER
- He owned Hanatamago during the 1970s and ‘80s when ninja films were popular, hence the Asian name. He didn’t initially know it meant Floweregg, just that it sounded Japanese and cool. He would also switch between calling her the Finnish variant (Kukkamuna) and the Swedish translation (Blommaägg).
- He can never forgive Japan for what he’s done to “Ievan Polkka” [that’s the proper name, dammit, not “Leekspin”!]
- Tino can no longer drink Alko beer. He sees it only as a weapon.
- He’s quite skilled in healing and making natural remedies. He knows the uses of over a hundred herbs and can turn nearly any part of a reindeer into medicine. And yes, ground reindeer antler is an aphrodisiac.
- He is still ashamed of himself for allying with Nazi Germany, but if presented with the situation once more, he would do the same as it was a matter of life or death for him.
OTHERS/GENERAL - SWEDEN had perfect vision up until the night he and Finland left the Kalmar Union. An attack to the head by DENMARK impaired his sight.
- NETHERLANDS and DENMARK are total bros. There is no basis for this, but I’ve expressed my interest in this bromance on multiple occasions. Me gusta.
- Related to the last point, DENMARK openly flirts with BELGIUM. He does this half because it annoys Netherlands and half because he genuinely does like her. Again, there's no basis for this pairing. Maybe beer and Germanic languages...
- PRUSSIA continues to exist as eastern Germany [not to be confused with East Germany/the GDR] because there still exists a disparity between the economies of the eastern and western side of the country and because it’s possible that people who were born in Prussia before its dissolution are still alive today. It’s similar to how there is a Northern and Southern Italy even though the country is unified. Prussia is dying.
- SEALAND has a racecar bed. It was a hand-me-down from AMERICA, who really hated to part with it.
- NETHERLANDS' scar is representative of his many dams and levees and the fact that they've been cracked and broken over time.
- HRE was not Germany. He was, however, a close relative. Germany's growth from a proto-nation into a full fledged nation did not begin until after HRE's death.
- SCANDIA and SÁPMI were the grandfather and grandmother, respectively, of the nations in Fennoscandia.
- All of the nations can slip in and out of dialects/accents present in their country's language(s) (American can speak with a Brooklyn accent just as well as he can speak with a Charleston drawl, and Norway and Finland can speak any dialect of the Saami language, for example.)
- None of the nations are pedophiles. C'mon, guys. That's just not right.
[[Currently, I don’t have much of a headcanon for Lux other than what’s in his profile. Maybe once I use him some I’ll be able to hammer out the details a little better.]]
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Post by duckie on Jun 12, 2011 20:53:28 GMT -5
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Post by America on Jun 12, 2011 21:49:19 GMT -5
I have been pounding out headcanon-ness all this while and I can't resist the urge to post about it! Some of this comes from the app, some from the cbox, and some from private plotting PMs. Brazil's will probably end up here as well once I get to know her better.
AMERICA
Personal
- Alfred, like America itself, is disturbingly modular. When states secede it doesn't actually hurt. Instead, the representing area of Alfred's body experiences a numbing, Somatoparaphrenia-like state (Somatoparaphrenia being a delusional condition where one's own limbs are perceived as foreign) for the duration of the state's secession. One the state is reintegrated, the limb returns to full function - barring any damage that the state-tan had taken, which only then appears on Alfred's body.
- He doesn't know what would happen if a state seceded and never rejoined, but the idea is very unsettling to Alfred.
- Alfred has a large burn scar that wraps around his left knee as a leftover from the Civil War: it's Sherman's March to the Sea.
- There's a thing in Alfred's head that he's taken to calling 'the newsfeed'. It's actually a direct link to the minds of all his people, allowing Alfred to get very direct feedback on how his people want the country to work...which was a lot easier to sort back when there weren't +310,000,000 people shouting in his head at the same time.
- Alfred being an idiot has over time become less a facet of his actual personality (though happy cluelessness IS an important facet of his personality) and more of a method for keeping the newsfeed in check so he doesn't go insane. Thinking too hard makes it impossible for Alfred to ignore the shouting - which is why whenever Alfred actually has to concentrate on something, he invariably ends up with a killer headache.
- This affects his personality as well: large trends in American thinking have a tendency to 'tug' at Alfred's head. When his people are all paranoid about communists, so is he. When they're raging against a war being fought, so does he. And if a lot of them are using a certain kind of drug, Alfred usually ends up getting a secondhand high.
- As far as religion goes, Alfred will not admit to believing in anything particular. His usual excuse is that he's legally obligated not to pick one because church and state are separate things in the constitution. But when it comes to his personal beliefs, Alfred's actually more of a Deist.
- His sixth sense is crap (it only works on Halloween and at other times when a lot of Americans actively believe in the supernatural), but it does exist. It's just as well, as American mythology is full of very nasty, very dark, and generally very monstrous creatures and what little Alfred ever saw of them was more than enough to kick-start his fear of ghosts.
- Americans believing in aliens counts as them believing in the supernatural, Alfred was dismayed to find out.
Relationships
- Sex and Love are separate concepts in Alfred's mind. He can't figure out how you show love without sex, since sex seems to be part of it somehow, but at the same time he really can't understand how one uses something as meaningless as sex to show love. He's experienced sex as a way for someone to get something from him, a method for physically comforting other people, and as a casual, entirely physical activity that just happens to feel good, but never as an expression of love. He's never slept with the people he genuinely loves before, either.
- The fact that American culture is both sex-driven and sexually repressed at the same time is due to Alfred's inability to reconcile the two things.
- Despite this, Alfred is basically bi/indifferent (he doesn't seen gender as a factor into whether he'll sleep with someone or not) and is pretty easy to please in bed.
- Alfred's got a bit of a reputation as a town bicycle due to how easy it is to get him in bed. He can't stand it, but he can't make it go away either.
- He never tops.
- Alfred is VERY physically affectionate around people he likes, whether they're just friends or they're lovers. Hugging and snuggling are common sights.
- Alfred is a little more fond of his brother than he probably should be: all those offers of marriage in exchange for Mattie adding his house to Alfred's were heartfelt and genuine. Alfred still thinks marrying Mattie would have worked out somehow, too, even if he doesn't really see his brother in a romantic light... (Separation of Love and Sex strikes again.)
- Really, Alfred can see his brother almost all the time. He just can't always remember that his brother is Canada.
Living Conditions
- Alfred shares his house with a large number of fellow -tans. Fifty of them are the state-tans. There are five or so nation-spirits whose houses Alfred's currently running (Puerto Rico, Guam, etc), and the rest are all the native tribe-tans that are still alive.
- The state-tans share Alfred's surname and two physical features with him: blue eyes and an ahoge sticking up in the same part of their hair. However, the state ahoges only represent a local feature (Nevada's is enormous, flopping over the top of his head, and represents the Grand Canyon. Michigan's flops down over his face and represents Lake Michigan. California's is permed into a little spiral and represents Hollywood, etc). They also share a small part of Alfred's enormous strength, though it varies from state to state and none of them are even half as strong as he is.
- Despite these shared traits, Alfred and the states don't consider themselves related at all - they're more like coworkers. They certainly don't look related either - New Mexico and Arizona are Hispanic, Hawaii is Polynesian, Alaska looks like Russia, Vermont looks suspiciously like Austria for some reason, and so on.
- There is no state-tan for the District of Columbia - it's the one part that's entirely Alfred's.
- Alfred only owns one place outright - the nice manor house in Pennsylvania. Nowadays he only uses it to store things, letting Pennsylvania himself live there rent-free as long as he looks after the place while Alfred himself remains more mobile. Generally, Alfred either ends up crashing on his other state-tan's couches, renting a small place if he has the money, and sleeping in a tent if he doesn't.
- Alfred does get a small stipend from the government, but he prefers to spend money he earns himself. Most of his earnings consist of military pay, though he'll work part-time in places when it's been too long between wars.
Other
- Alfred's tolerance for certain hard drugs is unsurprisingly high. Heroin is not one of them, as he was put off it altogether after he died the first time he tried it.
- He's registered as a medical marijuana user in the state of California. California both got him the license and is his supplier.
- Alfred's a social user nowadays: he tends not to drink, smoke, or use anything that the people around him aren't drinking, smoking, or using, and he rarely does any of that solo.
- He'd much rather be happy than be a superpower.
- His love of the wild, wild west is such that Alfred practices quick-drawing with every single gun he's ever owned or used.
- Alfred and all of his state-tans are gun experts. The territories and tribe-tans vary on what they like, but Puerto Rico claims she prefers Spanish cannons instead.
Others/General:
- Germany is HRE, after dying and ended up being 'reset' as a nation. And while Germany might eventually regain a few HRE memories, he's never going to be the same person in mind and action.
- Canada isn't invisible because people ignore him (though people do ignore him), it's because he has such a high population of Asian ninja-types that he can't turn off the stealthy.
- Canada might not have been a country for as long as Alfred, but he's been alive much longer - ever since humans first reached the Americas from Siberia ~12 thousand years ago.
- PRUSSIA LIVES! ...He's the new Brandenburg.
- Roman Empire started the whole trend of 'Ooh look, a cute little proto-nation to take home with me!' colonization by European nations due to that being exactly how he acted after finding THEM.
...yeah, that's it for now~ ((EDITED UP FOR AWESOME NEW FORMATTING~))
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Post by turkishdelight on Jun 13, 2011 21:28:24 GMT -5
Oh geez, I actually have to do some thinking for once….
Headcanon, I guess I’ll start with Turkey’s ambiguous birth. To tell you the truth, I always found it hard to point a specific time because he’s so effing old.
Alright, so I have two theories for him and usually I would just pick one but quite frankly I can’t really choose which idea I like better so if you guys want to give me your input. Please feel free.
Conspiracy Birth Theory 1:
As we all know the area modern Turkey is situated was not always called such and actually for the longest time ever was referred to as Asia Minor. I had a theory that Turkey was not exactly linked to his people until very much later and that it was more that he was attached to the land. Throughout history Asia Minor has been a fairly big hot spot and so the fact that many different empires wanted to get their hands on the land says a lot about the feelings being directed towards it.
Anyway, were I’m going with this is that Sadiq Adnan manifested as a child when there were more nations interested in his lands. He was created on the feelings of conquest that were coming from other nations. So his birth was more of a spite to the other nations since his history is filled with being conquered and conquering others and an overall feeling of disturbing the peace.
Conspiracy Birth Theory 2:
Okay, now for number two. So this birth has more to do with the first Turkic tribe ever documented. He was born from a sense of tribal pride and as for exact time all I can really say is that it occurred really really far back in, let’s say, 200 BC (this was the first documented Turkic Tribe so for all I know Sadiq could be much older than I initially anticipated). Then in the sixth century he migrated over to Asia Minor during the Turkic Migration and ended up settling there and just staying.
Random Facts about Modern Turkey:
Since it’s already really apparent that Sadiq is as old as they come there are a few things that he carries with him at all times. The first thing that he carries with him, which should be fairly obvious, is his mask. He may not be wearing it all the time but it’s always on his person and he never leaves home without it. It just feels wrong if he were too and being kind of superstitious he would be scared to see how bad of a day he would have. The second item is the blue evil eye bracelet around his right wrist and the third is a small wallet size picture of Ataturk.
Sadiq’s Mask:
Tons of people are constantly asking me what’s the deal with Sadiq’s mask and so I’ll reveal everything to you guys here. It’s not as exciting as you think it is.
1) It was the first thing he had ever received as a gift from one of his “bosses” and it was from the very first Sultan of the Ottoman Empire. 2) Because it’s been with him for such a long time it holds a lot of memories. If he were to get rid of it he feels as if he would be trying to erase his past which is something he never wants to forget. His mask is a constant reminder of all the hardships he’s been through and as much a part of him as his left arm. 3) During his Ottoman days he wore it as a way to conceal his youth from his conquest eyes. For most of the early years of his empire he didn’t want anyone knowing that he was still very young and inexperienced in a sense when it came to conquering and just being a big Empire. But, it was also to conceal his appearance from his own people because they would never understand why he never aged and since his entire appearance was concealed by colourful and lavish clothing his people could just assume that he was like the Sultan’s guardian being replaced with the change of every Sultan. 4) Sadiq can be very expressive and so this was a good way of keeping his emotions in check when he can’t control them. Because of the way he was raised he always found them to be a weakness and he’s seen many Empires fall for the sole reason that an Empire couldn’t control/conceal his emotions from his opponent. If you can’t see his face you can never tell if he’s bothered about something or not. 5) Makes him look cool and intimidating.
Sadiq’s take on SEX:
Sex is dominance for him. Sadiq has always seen sex as a mean of dominating/exerting his dominance on another nation or person. This has a lot to do with his younger days and when he was under other Empires. They have really corrupted his view on this act but with time his sultans especially Suleiman the Magnificent has given him a different perspective on sex: A means of showing your love to someone you care deeply about. Of course, he sees it as pleasurable fun too (He likes this view more than that of love) but in his earlier years it has always been a way of showing another nation who is in charge. Sadiq is definitely a sexual predator and if he has his eye on something he won’t stop until he gets it (some habits die hard).
Now a days Sadiq views sex mostly as a tool for pleasure or even as a means of strengthening political ties if it comes down to it. It’s most likely he’s had sex, at one point in time, with you nation whether it was a drunken moment or a completely sober one.
Sadiq’s little secret: He writes poetry. He’s been writing poetry since his Ottoman days and has quite a big collect that he keeps locked away in his office. No one has seen his works because it’s something that embarrasses him or rather makes him self-conscious. Writing was the only thing that he truly let all his guards down and really expressed him and so many of his works are very personal. However, ever since the end of his empire he’s been writing less and less.
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Post by Germany on Jun 14, 2011 4:08:00 GMT -5
Thought I’d jump on the bandwagon here with my own headcanon. ^^ Brace yourself: it is monstrously long. Probably too long to read in one sitting, but once I got writing I couldn’t stop. When it comes to personified nations, I’m more of a lumper than a splitter. I tend to see fewer true nations and more proto-nations, since proto-nations need not be ( or even have human-bodied personifications who appear ) young, and I see more true and permanent nation deaths. Why do I see it this way? I was heavily influenced by all the cultural anthropology and archeology classes I either had already taken or was currently taking in university at the time when I first discovered Hetalia. My schooling colored my perceptions from the very beginning, gave me a framework from which to try to figure things out from. GERMANY
* Ludwig Herrmann was first born as the proto-nation North German Confederation on August 27, 1866. Visit this post for more details, and a timeline of how I see his appearance ages changing throughout the years. * Gilbert Beilschmidt, a.k.a. Prussia, named Ludwig “Ludwig”. ( I roleplayed this out with the first Prussia we had on this site and liked it enough to write it into my headcanon ). Ludwig assumed Gilbert’s surname as a child and changed it to Herrmann ( translated as “warrior man” or “army man” in English ) around the start of World War I ( when he appeared to be around the age of 16 and had the mentality/maturity to match ). He changed his human surname to help set him apart from Prussia. He loved his brother dearly, but wanted very much to be seen as his own separate entity, and this was part of the way in which he did that. * As a very young proto-nation and child, little Ludwig wanted nothing more than to be a valiant white knight, like the kind he imagined Gilbert was. The urge within him to fight the forces of evil to protect everything good, innocent, and pure was very strong. Suffice it to say, for a short while there he had a very black-and-white view of the world. * As a child, Ludwig thought of Gilbert both as an older brother and a father figure simultaneously. As an adult, he saw him more as a crazy ( in a good way! ) older brother and viewed himself as the more mature of the two, though his respect for Gilbert never really faltered and he continued to hold him in high esteem even after he died. * Ludwig is straight with a very slight bi-curiosity where extremely effeminate males are concerned. However, he would never even touch another male in any kind of a romantic way, never mind going further than that. He keeps his slight attraction to/bi-curiosity about guys like Lithuania to himself. * Ludwig lost his virginity around the start of the first World War. Though he is awkward at romance and generally finds it difficult to start a real relationship with someone, he finds he can easily acquire one-night stands with easy females who aren’t interested in building long-term relationships with the men they sleep with and seeks these ladies out when he’s in the mood. * This probably goes without saying, but in the bedroom Germany always tops. He’s got an extremely dominant personality and can’t stand anyone being over him, even his partner ( though if he was really, truly in love [ as in real love, not lust ] with a woman who wanted to top badly enough, she might be able to persuade him to let her on very rare, special occasions ) . * Germany is a warmonger. For him, war is like a challenging, thrilling game, and he really gets off on ( the way he sees it ) exerting dominance and power over others. He is also rather selfish and loves conquest for all the benefits it can net him and his people. He does not necessarily hate his enemies, either the nation-spirits themselves or their people. * WWI Germany was more hot-headed, cockier, and optimistic than WWII and especially post-WWII Germany. These were definitely his teenage years: not only did he have the body-appearance and mindset, but he was very naïve, new to a lot of situations, in a powerful political place, and basically felt invincible. Losing WWI was a hard knock that made him grow up and crushed most of his optimism ( he was never a true optimist, but he wasn’t always quite as pessimistic as he is now ). * Despite the reputation thrust on him during WWII, Germany as an individual is and always has been VERY against genocide. Germans are Germans regardless of their “race” or religious views, and as the embodiment of all of Germany he cares deeply for all of his citizens. Even when it is leveled purely against nonGermans he abhors genocide — he hates cruelty and pointless murder and could never support wiping out an entire religious or racial group purely on the grounds that they’re of “X” religion or race. It feels very morally wrong and evil to him, probably because of the Prussian values and virtues that went into making his soul/personality as he was created. * While he isn’t racist, he is extremely nationalist. In his mind, Germans are superior to every other nationality on the planet. He has his own mental ranking chart for nations’ citizens in terms of respectability. Poles always rank at or near the bottom of the list. * Right at first Ludwig actually liked Hitler and was proud to be a Nazi, mostly for political, economical, militaristic, and national pride reasons. However, as time grew on, he grew progressively less enchanted with his boss, especially after he learned what was really happening to the Jews on Nov. 28, 1941. Deeply saddened and sickened by everything about “The Final Solution”, he tried without success to talk his boss out of it. He was punished in a very cruel way for his little outburst at a meeting with the German High Command. From that point on, he hated Hitler, all the more with the passage of time. By the time of the Stalingrad battle he regularly fantasized killing him. * WWII was the only time-period in which Ludwig regularly broke rules. More specifically, he broke almost all the rules governing the actions one was supposed to take when one caught Jews and/or other targeted minority groups where they weren’t supposed to be and/or doing what they weren’t supposed to be doing. Depending on the situation, most of the time he’d play stupid and pretend he didn’t see them at all, steering his more rule-abiding comrades around them as necessary. Sometimes he’d directly assist them, providing their aim was not to harm or endanger any of his people and he was in a position where he could get away with it without being reported. * In spite of his persistent anti-cruelty and anti-genocide stances, the Nazis left a permanent dark stain on Ludwig’s soul. He had always had a bit of a cruel streak in him ( mostly subconscious, as most of the time he does not perceive his actions as cruel ), but the Nazis touched him with sadism. During WWII he experienced this mostly as unwelcome thoughts, feelings, and impulse-urges which he never acted on. After WWII the thoughts, feelings of pleasure from even the idea of inflicting pain on another, and impulse-urges went dormant. They lie chained by his more noble qualities deep within his psyche and only break free to surface under two circumstances: either when he’s extremely angry, or extremely aroused. In the latter situation he is able to keep full control; in the former situation, not so much. * When Germany was divided into East and West Germany by the Allies, he developed a split personality that was “East Germany” and shifted between being East and West Germany constantly. For the first few decades following WWII especially, he was also incredibly sick, weak, and suffered frequent migraines, body-aches, and flu-like symptoms on top of a deep emotional depression. He also suffered frequent unpredictable bouts of amnesia that didn’t lessen and finally end until he was well on the road to reunification. Overall Germany doesn’t remember roughly 60% of what happened between April 30, 1945 and November of 1989. Most of his missing memories are from the first two decades after WWII: he can’t remember 75% of the span between 4/30/1945 and 4/30/1965. He remembers most of the 70s and virtually all of the 80s. When East Germany officially dissolved his sanity was fully restored, and he found that, of all the memories he did retain since the war, about half of them were memories from his “East Germany” alter ego. * There are many reasons why Ludwig was so profoundly affected after WWII, but one of the major ones was that Prussia’s death utterly gutted him, greatly weakening his mental health and iron will. His disgust towards the Nazis’ genocide, his own personal feelings of guilt and utter helplessness, his sorrow at how easily his people were brainwashed into blind-hatred-fueled barbarity, and having his “house” and citizens divided were also instrumental in utterly breaking him and making him much more vulnerable to amnesia and developing a headmate. * To the present day, Ludwig still holds a personal grudge against the Allied nations for their role in Prussia’s death. However, the degree to which he does varies amongst them. He is most forgiving of Alfred and Francis and least forgiving of Ivan. However, for the most part he rarely brings old grievances up, recognizing the need to live in the here and now. * Apart from being very sad about it, Ludwig also blames himself for Gilbert’s death. After all, in the final years he was given all of Prussia’s land, military, economy, and the vast majority of his strength — in a very real sense his older brother was merged into him, with him becoming the dominant force. He knows how much this weakened Prussia, how much more vulnerable it made him to permanent death, and he never fails to feel intense guilt, sorrow, and a bit of self-hating every time he thinks about it * Ludwig is most attracted to strong and strong-willed, serious, physically fit and toned good-looking women. As far as he is concerned, Israel fits all of these to a tee. * Personal religious views? Ludwig is an agnostic theist. ( Put simply, he thinks God might exist, but he has yet to be fully convinced one way or the other. He also isn’t sure what God may be like if He does in fact exist: whether He’s the way any one specific religion says He is or whether all religions got some aspects of him right and some wrong. ) He first started doubting the Christianity he'd been raised with around the appearance age of 10 and was fully confused about what to believe agnostic theist by the appearance age of 14. During the roughest spots in his life he leaned more towards atheism, and even became atheist for a short while during the last year or two of WWII up until sometime in 1947 when it became too painful for him to fully abandon hope in there being a grand plan behind life that gave it a greater meaning and the possibility of some kind of existence after death. This forced him to re-think his views and re-examine the questions and evidence. In the end he ended up returning to agnostic theism. [[ I base this mostly on the fact that, for as long as its been a nation, religion has never been an important or particularly influencing agent in Germany. A poll conducted in 2005 reported that only 47% of Germans believe in God and a full 25% are completely atheist and don’t believe in any kind of god, spirit, or life-force. Not surprisingly, former East Germany is far less religious than former West Germany. ]] * Um, yeah. That’s the vast majority of my headcanon concerning Germany there. I won’t take any more room up here listing his secrets and fears: visit those sections of my profile for those and anything else you may want to know that I didn’t cover here. ^^ OTHERS/GENERAL
* Germany is not the Holy Roman Empire, reincarnated or otherwise. Yes, HRE covered a lot of land that later became Germany, but it also covered many different countries with different cultures, languages, and lifeways who had also been influenced by religions other than Catholicism; especially during its latter centuries it was more like a union of territories. In short, I see too much disparity and discontinuity between what was the HRE and Germany, both in real-life history and Hetalia. * Prussia/Gilbert died sometime before or on his date of official dissolution by the Allies in 1947. I don’t see him as having lived on as East Germany because pretty much everything Prussian about East Germany got stamped out fairly early on, and he’d already lost his identity by being dissolved so much into Germany at that point that it’s a wonder he survived as long as he did. I don’t go by the idea that a nation-spirit can live on so long as at least one person who was born within their borders is still alive for two main reasons: A ) in real life nations require functional governments in order to not collapse ( permanently die in the Hetalia-verse ), and B ) after the nation officially dissolved, the one surviving person who was born there would now be a citizen of another nation. Sure, that last crazy survivor could try to keep the spirit of his nation alive, but….that’s not bringing the government back. Also, Himaruya has apparently had some countries retire and some out-and-out die in his canon. I admit that I can’t make heads or tails of why he chose to have some die while others merely retired. O.o Where Himaruya’s logic is lacking, I substitute my own. * Provinces and states don’t get their own proto-nation spirits unless they are in the process of trying to become their own independent country or beginning to get very culturally distinct from their neighbors in a way which means they very likely will try to be their own independent country at some point in the near ( relatively speaking ) future. Proto-nations won’t necessarily become nations some day — they can live and die without ever getting to be true nations. ( I like this because I like parsimony and cutting down on the number of nation-spirits/proto-nation-spirits for my own sanity. It just keeps things more simple ). * When the Allies split Germany in half, a new proto-nation, East Germany was born and quickly achieved nation status. Ludwig became West Germany. East Germany died when Ludwig was reunified, as he was the dominant influence. ( I don’t RP by this headcanon, but I like it just as well as the one I do play by ). * Romano either died when Italy was reunified, or went back to being a proto-nation because he lost his nationhood. I don’t know enough about the situation to decide which scenario would be more likely, but I favor the former because I’m not crazy about Romano. ( *hides under a rock to escape the angry spears of Romano fans everywhere* ) Either way I am aware this is an unpopular headcanon. XD * What would happen if the Koreas ever eventually united? Most likely North Korea would die. I can’t see any aspect of him/her ( I see him as a male, and not just because of out NK player’s take, though I thoroughly love that portrayal <3 ) surviving when everything about the South would be far more appealing to his former citizens. This is assuming a forceful reunification, as I can’t see NK’s dictatorship line ending peacefully.
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Post by Prussia on Jun 14, 2011 7:30:15 GMT -5
Agnostic!? I raised you better, West! PRUSSIA - Prussia is, and always has been, a Christian. First he was a devout Catholic, especially as Knight's Teutonic, and as time went on, he became a Protestant.
- Hitler wanted to kill Prussia because it was Prussia's tolerance of other religions and races that caused the Jews to flock to Prussia and Germany.
- Prussia loves Hungary, and is just too proud to admit it. His douchey behaviour is just like a little boy picking on the girl he has a crush on.
- Prussia is a warmonger. He was originally created for the sole purpose of waging war. It's a part of him. He needs it as much as he needs air.
- Prussia taught America how to fight.
- Prussia follows all of the Prussian Virtues, though he may not always seem like it.
- Prussia hates genocide and persecution. His entire life as Prussia, he has always been a safe haven for people of various religions and races.
- Prussia's appearance reflects his tolerance. Europe, even today, is highly supersticious concerning Albinos, and many Albinos face persecution.
- Prussia never lies to others, as it goes against the Prussian Virtue of Frankness, though he will lie to himself for his ego's sake.
- Prussia and Germany share a heart, as Berlin is both of their capitols.
- Prussia is still alive. My reasoning is:
- Prussia and Germany share a heart - The Knights Teutonic is still operational. - Prussian influence still exists in Germany. The people especially those in West Berlin, have repeatedly called for the reformation of the state of Prussia, as well as a return to Prussian values. - Himaruya's computer game, Prussia's Shit Cleaning, contains dialogue between Prussia and Germany that reveals that Prussia has retired, passed his traits on to Germany, and will eventually die out.
- Prussia would be nice to Sealand, since they were both born from similar situations: Prussia being a chapter of Knights, and Sealand being a military fort.
- Prussia has difficulty showing concern or kindness, due to his highly militaristic way of life. As such, it often comes out as goading, as when he constantly harrassed Germany when the latter was trying to abstain from beer by waving it in his face.
- Prussia is secretly proud of America's success as a nation, since he was the one who taught America how to fight.
- Prussia feels that his most important obligation is to protect his people and help them prosper. This is why he did some of the things he's done, such as protect Hungary then demand land in compensation, make alliances with Austria to fight off the Nordics, and even abandon the Teutonic Knights to defend the Prussians from them.
- Prussia allowed himself to be abolished, feeling that in doing so, at least Germany would be allowed to live, and hopefully recover.
- Prussia loved HRE like a brother, and didn't take his death well. Hence his betrayal against France shortly before the fall of HRE.
- Prussia doesn't like Austria, but since they are both Germanic nations, still sees him as a 'brother', albeit much more loosely than Germany or HRE.
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Post by Russia on Jun 14, 2011 16:54:22 GMT -5
I did not go into complete depth concerning my headcanon in all areas. It would take forever to sit here and describe every aspect of his character I think, and I am impatient. So I labeled the areas I wrote about so that those who are curious can skip right to whatever sections. XD
Concerning Insanity, the Romanov family and the Bolshevik Revolution
-Of course it is canon that Russia’s insanity was the result of a bloody history, and I stand by that with headcanon by thinking Mongolia was a major player in that. They just had really awful, violent interactions back in the days when Russia was a small proto-nation, that lasted even after he had became a full out nation.
-I don’t however see him as batshit insane until much later on. I think the Bloody Sunday event was a major trigger in making him aggressively insane, and in my headcanon things just went from bad to worse after that, with increasing insanity and paranoia. I think that before the breaking point where he turns the rifle on his own people, he might have actually been a bit more pleasant to be around. Obviously he was still conquest-happy and vicious in battle, but I don’t think he started regularly beating his subordinates until later on.
I think that during and right before the Bolshevik Revolution, he would have been a pretty crazed and confused nation. Since he represents all classes of his people he would be very divided about the whole Bolshevism thing. Some days he might staunchly support it, and others he might not, depending on his mood at the time. He was rather fond of Lenin though, since the man was very good with words, and convincing him that they needed major change. I think he would have supported Lenin more than his Tsar near the end there, and probably would not have been sad at all to see his former boss killed. Also helping his support for Lenin would have been the fact that he read the works of Marx and Engels from before, and found Lenin to mirror a lot of these ideals. So he was familiar with the ideas, and familiarity breeds contentment. It would have certainly helped push him from his ancient, imperial roots to the new and foreign ideas being presented at the time.
-Feelings on the Romanov family would have been very mixed. I don’t think he would have been such a hater as to want to see the whole family killed like that personally, but he probably would have seen the sense in it from a militaristic viewpoint. He probably would have wanted to see his former Tsar killed due to what he saw as a failure to be a decent leader, but I don’t think he had any personal issues with his wife and kids. His Tsar had him out fighting a lot in wars, so I doubt he would have had too much time around them really.
Communism and Stalin:
-Russia as his own entity would have clung to communism, even after the support for it was falling in his borders. No longer relying on Imperialism, it was something that was familiar and comforting, despite the way some of his bosses would abuse the concepts.
-Speaking of bosses who abused the concepts of communism and Bolshevism and all that jazz, time to talk about Stalin. I can see Russia as being the type to embrace Stalin at first and really respect him as a leader. Stalin was a strong and demanding sort of figure, and being a nation who loves power, I can see him as respecting that. Stalin’s ideas on war communism would also appeal to him on some level, even though near the end of his life, his former boss was so against the ideas.
-As much as he liked Stalin at first though, I think he would have lost his devotion to him pretty early on. The reason being that, countries often get to be in close proximity to their leaders all the time, and get to know them better than the average person. Russia would have known about the less than comradely things that his boss was ordering and having carried out. Whereas Ivan can be cruel and merciless, he is still a nation, and as such must harbor some sort of loyalty and fondness for his people. And Stalin had things done that starved and hurt his own people in addition to his family’s citizens(Ukraine and Belarus). As crazy as he could be, I don’t think he is stupid, and I think he would have not been too thrilled with having so many Russians killed for such relatively silly reasons. It wasn’t like the Bloody Sunday event were only a relatively small amount of his population were killed, the purges and executions that were in his own borders were on a greater scale and harder to justify for Ivan.
-So in a nutshell, he would have liked Stalin at first in my headcanon, but lost his devotion to him probably before WW II even.
-Modern Russia is not as enamored with ideas such as communism, but I can still see him as holding some longing for it. Not because he was super communist in his own personal ideas, but because he thought he was at the height of his power in the Cold War times and would miss that.
-So whereas he enjoys the riches to be offered through capitalism nowadays, I still think he would hold some good feelings for his communistic past.
Cold War and America:
-In my headcanon, Russia sees America as perhaps his greatest foe, despite the other’s happy-go-lucky nature most of the time.
-There were strong anti-American ideals in his lands during the Cold War, and he was all too happy to go right along with it. During this period all bad things in the world were the result of America. He was perfectly content to assume that all his problems were directly because of Alfred. This of course lead to a strong dislike for the other nation.
-Russia was perhaps too competitive in this time frame, a fact that would eventually help lead to the Soviet Union’s collapse. He would ignore the needs of his own people just to keep up with and attempt to surpass Alfred.
-Modern Russia is not as fiercely against America as he used to be, but he still harbors some ill will against the nation. He lost a lot of his paranoia concerning America and his nuclear arsenal, but he still will stop at nothing to criticize Alfred any chance he gets. He retained his tendency to support whatever side America doesn’t when he can. (Sadly for him, it’s not always possible in modern times, and he hates it when they are in agreement on a situation.)
Concerning More Personal Aspects:
-He is not that sexual of a nation, all things considered. I mean, in the days when prostitution and all that was really big in his house, I can see him as getting around more, but he is by no means France when it comes to these things.
-Russia is probably considered bi-sexual in my headcanon. He definitely has a tendency towards women though, concerning anyone other than Toris. (Since Toris both looks and acts more womanly, he sort of views him more as a female than what the little Baltic would probably like. The same isn’t true for Poland however, because there is far more bad blood between Feliks and him. That Pol is just way too defiant. XD)
-I don’t think of Russia as a rapetruck at all. I mean, for the power play aspects I can totally see it as something he might try under the right circumstances, but I doubt he would be out there trying to rape anything that moved.
-I can see him as being into bondage and all that though. If it’s with the right person or nation. He likes his whips and he likes his chains, so why not? Sadly, I don’t think Liet would be the type to want to go for those more sadomasochist themes.
-I really like making Russia a complete sadist. He loves inflicting I think, and feeds his dominance and control needs through punishing his subordinates and conquests. I think on the whole he just gets off on hurting others in my headcanon.
-Even though he is a complete sadist, he doesn’t see it as being a negative trait. He truly believes that what he does is right, and that any punishments he dishes out are well deserved. He doesn’t realize that he is in reality just being a complete ass, and thinks of himself as far more compassionate and fair than what he is. He doesn’t understand how anyone could think of him as cruel, and is annoyed to be accused of such a thing.
-Though really naïve, I can’t bring myself to think of him as overly child-like. Not with his history and other traits. He might have childish tendencies, but I don’t see him as having the child-like views on the world that some players give him. Talking to him is not the same as talking to a five year old for sure. XD
-I also see him as very crafty and well read. Why? Because Russian culture is very rich in literature and Russians themselves are usually well educated. That doesn’t mean he is the type to gab your ear off about every possible reading of a piece of literature, but I think he would do a lot of reading in his spare time. (When he isn’t out playing in the garden or threatening other nations) And of course, he wouldn’t be a very threatening world force if he was an idiot. He has to have a nice degree of intelligence to be able to stir things up the way he does in world affairs.
Concerning Other Characters and Ideas:
-I am what is called a “lumper” in more scientific terms, so I see noticeably less spirit representatives than some Hetalia fans. In my headcanon things like territories and states don’t actually have representatives, but influence the nation’s personality on the whole. (I admit that I wouldn’t even have made there be two Italies if I had made the series. As cute as Romano is. )
-Prussia is dies after he is abolished in 1947. Not only do I like the more sad tones to this, but I have seen a lot of different countries that had different regional economics and such, and if I were to imagine him as staying around as East Germany-or anything else-it would mean that these other places would have representatives as well. Being the type who likes less spirit reps, in my headcanon him “dying” makes more sense to me. No offense to anyone who sees it differently of course. Just giving my own personal take on it. ~
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Post by England on Jun 14, 2011 20:39:26 GMT -5
Great idea~ I tried to avoid anything I’d already written in my app, but here we go. Written earlier while stuck on the Tube, and like everyone a product of some musing, some PMs, some fanon...
England
- He has no trouble being Christian and Pagan at the same time. One is a faith and the other is just reality, as far as he's concerned. He chafed a lot against Christianity at the beginning, though, and was surly and unhelpful during the Crusades. He’s well aware that his own generals and bosses would have seen his opinions as blasphemy at various times, so he leaves them in the dark when it comes to his less conventional abilities. (But he does think it's sad, how much the world's lost).
- Which is why he actually helped to encourage the “England is crazy” rumour back when it first started, because it was safer to be thought of as crazy than to be persecuted for witchcraft. Being protestant was enough trouble.
- He is a bit wrong in the head. He always has been. But despite encouraging that rumour, he doesn’t see it.
- True to his capital’s reputation, England is an excellent pickpocket. He gets his practice in on both humans and nations, but he normally slips whatever it was straight back again. Normally. He’s a bit of a magpie.
- Do I even have to say I don’t think England is a wangst bucket looking for a saviour? No? Excellent.
- England is an awful driver. I mean really awful. Either he’s too cautious and putters or he’s too aggressive and nearly runs people off the road. He drives under the influence regularly and gets road-rage like no-body’s business. If he can he takes a cab or the train. This doesn’t stop him buying cars, though.
- He wouldn’t actually want to swap next-door neighbours. He fights with France, good lord he does, but the frog is comfortable company. If he lived next to someone he got along with better, they wouldn’t be friends for long. England’s rude when he’s feeling anti-social.
- Back in the day, he made a lot of kooky witchcrafty medicines. Some were really quite effective—because he used to put a little cocaine in them. He still does when someone has the sniffles.
- His cooking really hasn’t got any better, but the restaurant culture in his country has. Arthur often has breakfast in town instead of at home, but when he entertains he still makes an effort to be awful. He has an image to maintain after all.
- Arthur built up a small personal fortune as an empire and lives off the interest. When he does take a job, it’s in Westminster to try and keep his government from being completely incompetent.
- He has a town house in London, a cottage on the Southern coast and an old castle-type thing up North. He uses them all at various times of the year, and they're an excellent indicator of how close he is to someone. Everyone has the first address, some have the second, a small handful have the third.
- He reads both The Times and The Sun, which is a joke likely lost in translation.
- All England’s brothers are older than he is, but Scotland is the only one he actually thinks of as his older brother. Scotland is also the only person who can still make England feel like a child.
- He blames them all for cheerfully leaving him as softbait for Rome and Denmark, which is the main reason he didn’t lift a finger to help them in the past.
- He could do a couple of very simple things to vastly improve his appearance, but the truth is he doesn’t want to look any better than he does. He dislikes being eyed up, which is all France’s fault. He gets the disconcerting foreboding of invasion. It’s very off-putting.
- England both feels things very deeply and manages to be completely insensitive, depending on the weather. At heart he’s a good person, but he spends more time being thoroughly awful.
- He’s a lit geek, and has written and published through the centuries. He’s told NO-ONE.
- He realises his chances of ever regaining military prominence are almost completely hamstrung by his alliance with Alfred. Any scientific leaps forward he could make that would give him that kind of edge would have to be shared or Washington would flip its ****. He'll cross that bridge if he ever comes to it.
- He could do far more effective magic than he does, but the price and repercussions of that kind of meddling scare him. They’d scare anyone.
- Normandy was a separate Nation, as it had its own land and ethnic identity that was acknowledged by England, France and the Nordic homeland. After 1066, England spent the next few hundred years systematically murdering him piece by piece, war by war, marriage by marriage. France helped incidentally, in the pursuit of his own interests, but Arthur was the one who was doing it on purpose. It’s the only time he’s maliciously gone after someone with the sole intent of eradicating them, and he succeeded. He has no regrets.
- He didn't personally like Henry VIII. The man was a decent king, but no-one escaped his temper.
- He's bad with languages, but not nearly as bad as he pretends he is. Arthur hasn't spoken French in so long that his pronunciation is a crime, but he can understand what's said to him and he can still read it. The same goes for Portuguese, Spanish and Dutch.
- Sexually, England’s an old pirate with prudish moments. There’s not much he hasn’t done or wouldn’t consider doing, but the ‘who’ matters. He’s had his share of hate sex, but only when the other person’s furious enough with him to respond. Sex for the sole purpose of dominance (you know, rape) doesn’t appeal to him, since he had enough of that growing up. That doesn’t mean he didn't sometimes lean rather hard as an Empire (like I think he did with India, back in the day, and she regularly told him exactly what he could do with that). But on the whole he respects other people's boundaries like a gentleman.
- He guards his feelings close to the chest, especially against the people they concern, which often leads him to treat casual alliances better than people he actually loves. That list is short, but hasn’t changed much in centuries.
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Post by japan on Jun 15, 2011 2:27:37 GMT -5
I really wanted to get this up.
My headcanon on Japan changes constantly, as I learn more about his culture and history.
PERSONALITY AND QUIRKS
-Japan treats everyone with fake politeness. He's not doing it because he actually respects you.
-Japan is very passive-aggressive.
-Japan does NOT say 'desu' 'kawaii' 'san' 'chan'. this is because he has a good understanding of the English Language, and knows the translation of 'desu, kawaii', etc. He is good at adapting, and therefore knows that 'san' and 'chan' is not used in English.
-Surprisingly, his passive-aggressiveness comes out with nations he gets along more, such as America, China, Taiwan, and SK. (He is more fond of the Asian family, though he doesn't get along fantastically with them.)
EARLY YEARS (because I haven't studied in depth, this will just be known as the early years.)
-Japan has always been a drifter of some kind, watching as warlords defeated each other. He has never actively taken a side in any major wars in the early years. He observed and studied his people.
-His personality was a bit lighter. I am choosing to pretty much ignore Himaruya's canon at this point, only taking a few personality quirks to heart.
-I believe that Japan truly treasured his Asian famiry. He may have not called China 'brother' often, but times to times. he was strongly dependent on China when he was young.
-I also believe, that because of the many wars and disputes that were going on in Japan, it has turned Japan into an apathetic person. this is most likely the time period where Japan cares the least about his children.
-As Western influence strengthened, Japan was never directly influenced, because he did not take sides. He spent his years practicing the way of the bushido, etc. He regarded all influence with strangeness and reluctance, and even rejection. From the very beginning, Japan disliked the influences, though he will not admit it.
EDO BAKUFU (Militarism in the Edo Period.) (and yes I may have skipped a few hundred or thousand years.)
when Japan was finally unified under one military family, the Tokugawas, Japan chose to finally take a side, joining the bakufu, and maybe even the shinsengumi. He finally started to take orders from his boss as a nation. As Japan was not a very aggressive nation at the time, Japan followed orders accordingly.
-He started to develop a sense of nationalism, due to the fact that Japan was more or less united under one leader, and there was some degree of peace. (the most peaceful it has been.)
BAKUMATSU (re-opening of the ports)
Japan was both impressed and furious at Commodore Perry and America's ways of getting them to re-open the ports. Later he would grudgingly thank America. (in his head)
Japan, so used to the ways of the Bakufu, felt that it was difficult to adapt to the new changes, and supported the Bakufu in fighting the new government.
this would mark Japan's first moral death; Bakumatsu marks the end of the Edo period and the start of a more modern Meiji period. Japan committed Seppuku (cutting ones stomach open to release the soul) along with his peers, to mark the end of a time period. this allowed Japan to start anew.
-insert lots of sap and emotional things here-
MEIJI ERA
Japan starts the quick process of modernization, his determination fueled by the looming threats of Western countries, and his brother China's defeat in the Opium wars.
My biggest canon here, is that Japan engaged in wars to prevent himself from becoming a colony. He saw what had happened to China, and decided to take his own action.
(This is where all the really important stuff is supposed to go. I'm skipping it because of the lack of knowledge.)
WWI
Japan is chilling at his home doing whatever he wants. He sometimes goes to help England, and gets more land than Italy from it.
WWII
..TBC.
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Post by Greece on Jun 15, 2011 15:18:57 GMT -5
GREECE
-Heracles was around about the time that Alexander the Great came into power. At the time he was just running after Ancient Greece.
-As a kid, Heracles was always hanging around the scholars like Archimedes and Aristotle. They never seemed to really pay attention to him and for a while they swore he was one of the god’s children.
-He met Athena.
-He didn’t like the Ottoman Empire the moment he conquered and invaded the lands. Mostly because he pretty much killed Ancient Greece and he can never forgive him for that.
-He was a really horrible little kid under the Ottoman Empire. Because he didn’t like it from the start he was constantly fighting him on everything
-Part of him was still afraid of him though.
-He grew up really quickly under the Ottoman Empire as his people really began to feel national identity and were no longer just loosely connected islands.
-During the Greek Civil War, Heracles wasn’t sure what the hell was going on. He had major headaches during this time because of the separate factions fighting for dominance. He couldn’t even celebrate the fact that Germany was off his lands.
-Heracles was “five” when Ancient Greece died and “eighteen” when he separated from the Ottoman Empire.
[Random]
-He doesn’t really like either Italies. Mostly it’s because their related to Ancient Rome who stole his mother’s culture and pretended it was his own.
-He can stand Romano a little better than Feliciano.
-While he would probably say he was bi, he leans towards men more often than women.
-One of Heracles’ bosses gave him the last name Karpusi because at one point he was constantly eating watermelons and feta cheese
-Heracles has named each of his cats. He just doesn’t remember their names all the time, so he has to constantly rename them.
-He reads Homer’s work every day when he has the chance.
-When he’s really, really, really bored, Heracles calls Turkey to insult him.
-For a short period of time, Heracles thought Turkey was dead after the Ottoman Empire collapsed. It wasn’t until sometime during World War II that he realized he wasn’t.
-Heracles holds a grudge on everyone who has ever invaded his lands. Germany.
-It might seem like he’s completely oblivious to everything, Heracles just doesn’t care to listen to anything that’s being said unless that person is interesting—like Japan.
-Heracles likes America because they can bond over heroes—America with Superman and Heracles with all the mythology.
-He sometimes, occasionally doesn’t really hate Turkey. He kinda maybe likes him. Sometimes.
-He really did want the Olympics to be in the nude just as much as France.
-He likes casual sex but he does want an actual partner one day.
-He’s not one for violent sex.
-To cheer someone up, he gives them a cat. If they don’t want the cat then he lends the cat to them for a day.
[Other]
-States in America exist as personifications simply because it’s probably the only country that someone would actually say “I’m a New Yorker” instead of “I’m an American” –not to mention they each have their own government even if it’s connected to the federal government.
-The reason there’s a North and South Italy is because people still identify themselves as from the North and South (or so I’ve been told from Italians I know)
[/partly based from historical fact, some based on simply rp]
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Post by Austria on Jun 24, 2011 0:09:31 GMT -5
Alright, I'm a little late to jump in but here's my headcanon for Austria. I'll make one for Eesti later, of course, but on a different post. Anyhooooow~ ______________ Austria- Austria appears as a proto-nation as the Bavarians settle around the Danube river and up the Alps. - During his days as a proto-nation, he is bullied by Hungary (a proto-nation as well since the Magyars haven't settled down yet) He nearly died in 909 as he was overrun. - He becomes a nation in 976, when the Eastern March is established. - Hungary stopped bullying Austria in the year 1000, when Hungary is christianised and becomes a Kingdom. They actually become important allies quite quickly. - He became friends with Switzerland when the Habsburg inherited Austria (though they trained together earlier than that). Their friendship was actually very short and ended 40 years later. - Bavaria taught the boy how to fight, Switzerland continued to train him, then Hungary succeeded Switzerland as his trainer. She taught him how to fight on horseback and she was definitely the most successful in training him. - Austria was the first one to know that Hungary was a girl, though she didn't believe him at first and just shrugged it off. She eventually admitted it to him first because she thought he wouldn't make fun of him. She was right. - When Austria was defeated (coughHumiliatedcough) by Switzerland (who then declared his independence), he asked Hungary to train him, even if he knew she was a girl. They became quite close after that. Despite that, they had their fair share of fights (they are nations, after all). - He tried to help Hungary against the Ottomans, but was too late when she lost the Battle of Mohács. However, he was able to get her out of there somewhat safely (though bruised and bloodied from the battle), but with Turkey pursuing him, leading to the first Siege of Vienna. This is when Hungary becomes a servant. - He was never married to Spain. Marriages between nations are only when the two nation form a Real Union and become a single entity (Austria-Hungary and Poland-Lithuania are a couple of the very few examples of such union). - For a long time, he didn't believe in 'true love', as he was raised by as a noble. This made him ignore his initial feelings for Hungary when she first started living at his place. He didn't realise it until he was fighting the Ottomans out of Hungarian lands in the late 17th century. However, it just turned ignorance into denial for a long time. - Austria very well knows how to fight. He simply doesn't like it. He's actually a decent fencer. He's not a very strong nation, but the lack of strenght is compensated by great concentation, agility and finesse. He's also a good horseman thanks to Hungary's training. - The 1848 revolutions were horrible times for him and the aftermath drove him insane. In his delusions, he attempted to commit suicide as the German parts of his lands wanted to be part of Germany and not him (something that would haunt him again less than a century later) and when Hungary declared her total independence. He failed, which only lead him to cause himself more self-inflicted injuries until he was restrained. He only recovered much later, well after the conflicts ended. - More humiliations came. Italy was dragged away by France finally was able to declare his independence. In 1866, he was defeated by Prussia for the last time, kicking him out of the German familly. This lead him to marry Hungary. - The union obviously was political, but the two did truly love each other. This made the divorce horrible for the two nations. Both were unwilling to leave each other but they were forced apart by the winning Entente. Horribly depressing end to a beautiful marriage... - Because Austria isn't the strongest of nations, the enormous loss of land and population was traumatic to him, and found himself unable to walk. Being cut off from the sea, he developped a fear of marine animals as well. It took him a few years in order to be able to stand up again, though needed a cane until the mid-1930s. He also drank quite heavilly during that time. - Austria was and still is a monarchist. He stuck beside Emperor Karl until the bitter end. He actually cried when Karl failed to retake the Hungarian throne, as he could have avoided the fate of being annexed by Germany. After the war and even today, he befriended Otto von Habsburg, the son of Karl and pretender to the throne despite him never being his boss. It makes him sad to think that he would have been a great Emperor-King. - He was always against the Anchluss. He was forced to accept it at gunpoint. - He was still alive during the Anchluss, but without being a nation. This is because a small number of his people stayed loyal to him. He was eventually drafted into the Wehrmacht as the Germans began to lose, and ended up in a labour camp for the remainder of the war. - He almost was forced back into his wheelchair after WW2. Though he avoided that fate, he nearly starved to death instead during the occupation. - The occupiers left and he declared himself neutral. However, he feels guilty that Hungary tried to follow in his footsteps, which lead tothe 1956 Revolution. He tried to help as best as he could, breaking his neutrality barely a year after declaring it. He allowed all Hungarian refugees into his country and vocally supported the revolutionaries. However, he nearly died of starvation (again) due to the refugee crisis. - He completely isolated himself from the other nations for most of the cold war, drinking heavilly once more. He slowly got out of isolation as his economy started to recover, though he never emotionaly recovered (arguably never recovered from 1918 either). - Austria and Hungary literaly had a picnic during the Pan-European picnic. It was the first time they had seen eachother in around 40 years. - The two of them nowadays are dating, though both know that current circumstances will never let them remarry, as much as both would really love to reunite. They try to see each other as much as possible despite being busy with their duties. - Austria used to be able to speak a ton of languages. German, Hungarian, Slovene, Croatian, and Czech and could speak a little bit of Polish and Italian. That is due to the multicultural nature of his empire. Due to lack of practice, he lost the ability to speak most of them. He still can speak German, Hungarian, Czech and Slovene, however. ______________ Other- HRE is NOT Germany. The Holy Roman Empire does not represent the German people like Germany does. HRE also represents Czech, Dutch, Flemish, Walloon, Luxembourgish, Swiss, Austrian and Italian peoples, while Germany only represents the German people from "Kleindeutschland" (a little bigger than modern Germany but doesn't match HRE's borders at all). I think that Germany is born with the German Confederation in 1815 since it represented the German people, despite being some sort of supranational insitution and not a country (Germany as a proto-nation, I'd say). He's basically living with Austria since the Austrian Emperor is the President of the Confederation. When Prussia wins the Austro-Prussian War in 1866, Austria surrenders little Luddy, who is now named the North-German Confederation. He only becomes a true nation when the German Empire is created. tl;dr: HRE =/= Germany. proto-nation!Germany = German Confederation. Germany becomes a nation when the German Empire is created. - Prussia died in 1947. Every Germans living in Prussia (whom Prussia represents) are deported out of the lands that encompass Prussia proper. This, plus the fact that Germany renounced all claims to lands now owned by Poland and Russia makes the recreation of Prussia impossible. With no Prussian people living on Prussian lands, Prussia cannot be alive. - Russia and America didn't hate each other during the Cold War. They were simply completely paranoiac and were utterly scared of each other. The hostility between the two was, and still is cause by fear, since neither of them want to start a war they think they might lose. - The Eastern Roman Empire / the Byzantine Empire / Byzantium is a diffrent character from both Mama Greece and modern Greece, filling the gap between the two character. He would be like a father to little Greece, and his death fuels Greece's hate for Turkey. (( Totally not tempted to pick him up, nope, not at all... *has to take care of Eesti first* )) ______________ Well, that's it for now. I'll update this whenever ideas pop up and when I feel like it.
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Post by Iran on Jul 30, 2011 14:31:15 GMT -5
Iran - When Iran was still in her early days as the Achaemenid Empire, she was a little crybaby and her kings tended to spoil her rotten in the hopes that it will keep them in power. It worked, but now Iran believes EVERYONE should buy her expensive things to be her friend. (Unless they can't.)
- She's why Turkey wears his mask and hat as the Ottoman Empire. It embarrasses him that she controlled him for so many years. She knocks his hat off whenever it is in range.
- Archery and long ranged warfare is her thing, but she has no respect for artillery and muskets. Part of this is because Turkey used it during their wars and it let him beat her, the other is that it allows soldiers to not understand who they're killing.
- When she was modernized under the Pahlavis, she preferred to wear slacks, but she would walk through Tehran in knee length skirts.
- During the Pahlavis, it was said that "the skirts in Tehran were shorter than the ones in Paris." She didn't like the phrase until she needed to psyche herself up years later.
- Iran likes high heels.
- After the Iran Hostage Crisis, she punched Canada in the jaw for getting involved and freeing some hostages. He still thinks his teeth are loose because of it.
- She actually likes men AND women, but is so far in the closet she doesn't say anything about it. India and Venezuela have been sworn to silence on the matter.
And that's all I have for now ;;;
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Post by North Italy on Sept 21, 2011 17:38:36 GMT -5
Somehow I have more of a headcanon for Italy than anything else. Figures~
ITALIA VENEZIANO
Personal
- Feli has always represented the area in Italy historically known as Venetia - and later on the Republic of Venice. It's why his name is 'Veneziano'. Even if the current nation of Italy were totally dissolved, as long as Venetia kept existing in some form Feli would survive.
- Feli is very Catholic: he does sin a little bit when it comes to being lazy and drinking, but he goes to confession and mass regularly. His faith may seem a little simple, but it's very strong.
- He really can't read the atmosphere. Call him an airhead, but Feli's mind just doesn't seem geared to picking up things outside of his personal bubble. Anytime Feli does read the atmosphere, it's a sign of BAD things.
- Feli's got a surprisingly large amount of energy for someone so insistent on eating, sleeping, and goofing off all day long. Otherwise, he'd never be able to flee that fast.
Relationships
- Feli's family was once the biggest in Europe. In addition to older brother Romano and Grandpa Rome, there was Uncle Byzantium - Rome's younger brother. And in addition to THAT, there were all the other Italian city-states.
- All Italian city-states are vaguely related to and resemble each other. Some do so more than others - such as Romano, Feli, and Seborga - but all are or were brown-haired and usually had some sort of distinctive hair curl. Rome was just one of the oldest and fastest to mature.
- With the formation of the modern nation of Italy, the only surviving Italian city-state-tans are Romano (as Southern Italy), Veneziano (as Northern Italy), Seborga (due to a filing error), and Holy See/Vatican City (due to treaty negotiations).
- All the city-state-tans were named 'Italia [Insert Name Here]' during Rome's rule of the peninsula. Seborga would still be called 'Italia Seborga' if he didn't officially not exist.
- Feli is straight as an arrow.
- His first love being a boy (Holy Roman Empire, specifically) did nothing to alter his sexuality.
- Feli is also, however, a virgin. His beliefs that sex should wait until marriage, along with his never getting married, are the cause. This doesn't make Feli ignorant of how sex works: he's done enough risque artwork to know all the parts and mechanics.
- Since he wants to get married to 'the one', while Feli's a serial dater of pretty human girls he's never seriously considered marrying any of them. By the time he'd feel the relationship is starting to get serious, they'd be pushing fifty. So instead Feli helps the girls he dates find their 'the one' and cheers for them at their weddings.
- Despite being straight and celibate, as an artist Feli is an admirer of the human body. Even if that body belongs to a man or one of his friends or siblings, Feli can still appreciate physical beauty! He just doesn't want to sleep with most of the things he thinks are beautiful.
- Feli would happily admit that he would've liked to try dating Hungary if not for her marriage to Austria, because she's very beautiful. Feli also doesn't acknowledge that their divorce even happened - to him, they're only just living separately at the moment.
- Germania scares the ever-living HELL out of Feli. Due to sneaking back and seeing Germania chopping Grandpa Rome's head off after being sent away for his safety, Feli's first response to seeing anything that even LOOKS like Germania is full-blown hysteria and screaming. Even if it's just Germany dressed in a Germania costume and Feli saw him putting the damn thing on. He just goes right out of his mind with terror.
- This is probably related to why Grandpa Rome's ghost never appears when Feli's awake unless his cute grandson is in mortal peril.
Living Conditions
- When Feli isn't the nation-spirit of Italy, Romano has to take up the job. Romano was the FIRST nation-spirit of modern Italy, as a matter of fact - he shoved the job off onto his younger brother the second the Third Italian War of Independence ended because he hated it.
- During the period that Feli was abducted by Germany in late WW2 and forced to represent the puppet state 'Italian Socialist Republic', Romano had to take on the duties of Italy's nation-spirit once again. As you could imagine, Romano HATED it.
- Also during WW2, Feli managed to communicate outside the ISR despite orders preventing it thanks to Seborga. Since the only way to identify Seborga as an 'enemy nation' would have been to acknowledge him as a nation, and Mussolini thought Seborga was annoying, he slipped right through a loophole. And that's why Feli likes Seborga so much even though he's still not allowed to officially acknowledge the micronation exists.
- Knowing perfectly well how hard it is for someone as easily startled as he is to stand up to bosses giving bad orders, Feli devised a very clever trick to avoid receiving any orders he doesn't want. It involves carrying a large number of small snacks on his person at all times. Whenever the boss tries to give Feli what he thinks will be a bad order, Feli shoves a snack into the boss's mouth to keep him from talking and then flees like the wind. Since it's not an assault on the boss and all his snacks are deliciously handmade, Feli gets away with this every time.
- ...Except for when his boss was Mussolini, who learned to have Feli's pockets searched every day. Not because he didn't like the snacks, though - Mussolini kept the confiscated ones in his desk!
- Feli still does all the paintings and artwork he wants. Selling them provides a lucrative income for him, but he usually just gives it away to friends. And the income Feli does make is promptly recycled into art supplies and cooking ingredients.
Others
- Feli LOVES babies and little kids. He pulls a totally stereotypical Italian Grandmother routine on them whenever he sees them, insisting on fattening them up with tons of homemade goodies and coddling them immensely.
- Between the two of them, Feli's the better artist but Romano's the better chef.
- He keeps it below the radar, but Feli crossdresses for the fun of it. Though if someone else tries to force him into a dress Feli will protest, mostly if the dress isn't up to his (very high) standards of construction and fashion. He turns into a real fashionista when provoked.
Others/General
- I still think Prussia's the new Brandenburg! He was a Brandenburg by marriage before, after all~
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